The Dark Side of the Obsession With Focus

The 'New York Times' bestselling author and contrarian self-help writer Oliver Burkeman joins the show to talk about his new audio essay series on work, focus, and interruptions—and how, too often, our emphasis on eliminating distractions ironically takes us away from the most important things in life.

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Host: Derek Thompson

Guest: Oliver Burkeman

Producer: Devon Baroldi

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