
Matcha, coffee and green tea: which is healthiest? with Prof. Tim Spector and Chef Andrew Kojima
from ZOE Science & Nutrition
by ZOE
Published: Thu Apr 10 2025
Show Notes
Is matcha the ultimate coffee alternative, or just another wellness fad? In this episode, Andrew Kojima - aka Chef Koj - an expert in Japanese cuisine, and Professor Tim Spector, a world-leading scientist in nutrition and gut health, explore whether matcha is truly a healthier choice than coffee.
Chef Koj explains the rich history behind matcha, its role in Japanese culture, and why it has become a global wellness trend. Tim breaks down the latest science on matcha’s impact on metabolism, brain function, and gut health, comparing its effects to those of coffee.
For listeners curious about incorporating matcha into their daily routine, this episode includes a practical guide on how to prepare matcha properly. Koj demonstrates the traditional method of whisking matcha and shares tips on avoiding common mistakes. For those new to matcha, he also explains how to make a simple and delicious matcha latte for beginners.
The episode concludes with a tasting of Koj’s matcha custard dessert, showing how matcha’s umami-rich flavor can be used in unexpected ways. Could matcha actually help curb sugar cravings and build a taste for more complex flavors?
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Timecodes
Healthier than coffee?
Listener questions
What is matcha?
The same as green tea?
History of matcha
Industry marketing tricks
Why the west loves coffee
Does matcha make you alert?
How caffeine levels differ
Does matcha contain fiber?
Health benefits of matcha
Truth about iced matcha latte
Perfect matcha demonstration
Flavour profile of matcha
How to add matcha to food
Matcha dessert ideas
Expensive vs cheap matcha
Should you add milk?
Get Chef Koj's book 'No Sushi' here
📚Books by our ZOE Scientists
Every Body Should Know This by Dr Federica Amati
Food For Life by Prof. Tim Spector
🍵 Chef Koj's perfect matcha kit:
Organic Japanese Matcha Green Tea Powder
Studies referenced for today's episode
Effectof in vitro digestion-fermentation on green and roasted coffee bioactivity: The role of the gut microbiota, 2019,Food Chemistry
MatchaGreen Tea: Chemical Composition, Phenolic Acids, Caffeine and Fatty Acid Profile, 2024,Foods
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