
Shell Game
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Latest episode: Wed Nov 26 2025
A podcast about things that are not what they seem, hosted by journalist Evan Ratliff. Season 2 tells the story of enterprise and entrepreneurship in the AI age. Or: how Evan tried to build a real startup, run by fake people.
This season, Evan confronts head-on the assertion from tech entrepreneurs and VCs that we’re on the precipice of AI remaking the workforce. That we should expect not just AI colleagues working alongside us, but also — by Sam Altman’s telling, at least — the dawn of a billion-dollar company with only one human involved. Evan learns what it would take to create such a company … by doing it: Launching a real startup with five AI employees. Over the course of eight episodes, he explores what AI agents tell us about the work we do, the meaning we find in it, and the world that their makers say we’ll all be living in soon enough.
Shell Game was named one of the best podcasts of 2024by Apple, The Atlantic, The Guardian, Vulture, The Information, and The Economist. It's "riveting," says The New Yorker, "awesome" says The Verge, and "slightly terrifying," says The Globe and Mail.
New episodes are published on Wednesdays.
Nov26Episode 3: This is Law40mins
Nov19Episode 2: Outdoor Debugging37mins
Nov12Episode 1: Minimum Viable Company32mins
Nov5The One-Human Unicorn2mins
Oct10Season 2 Is Coming!2mins
Aug13Episode 6: The Future Isn't Real53mins
Aug6Episode 5: My Digital Twin43mins
Jul30Episode 4: Take a Deep Breath40mins
Jul23Episode 3: Conversations With Myself33mins
Jul16Episode 2: Me and My Scammer37mins
Jul9Episode 1: Quality Assurance32mins
Jul2Introducing Shell Game, a Strange and Immersive AI Experiment2mins