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Ann Packer: "Some Bright Nowhere" | Oprah's Book Club

The Oprah Podcast

Harpo

November 11, 2025

Show Notes

In this episode of Oprah’s Book Club: Presented by Starbucks, Oprah and Ann Packer discuss Some Bright Nowhere, Ann’s poignant new novel and Oprah’s 120th Book Club selection. This book explores what happens when a wife's dying request shatters everything her husband believed about their 35 years together. Ann’s evocative and beautifully written novel inspired a thought-provoking conversation among readers at a Starbucks coffeehouse in New York City. As our audience discussed the inherent challenges and life-changing insights that come with the privilege and responsibility of caregiving, they were warmed by a Starbucks holiday classic: the Peppermint Mocha.


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- Welcome Ann Packer, author of ‘Some Bright Nowhere’

- Thando shares her feelings about the main characters

- How Ann created the story

- Ann knew the ending before she started

- Recurring theme in Ann’s books

- Ann takes on hard questions

- How Ann wrote from the male perspective

- Support for male caregivers

- Male and female caregiving differences

- The difficulty of speaking your truth

- The power of a dying wish

- What cancer takes away from people

- What can be learned from loss

- Ann wants to normalize talking about death

- How it feels to hit send on your finished book


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Learn more about Jack’s Caregiver Coalition - a national non-profit that ensures no man should care alone. Jack’s is a center for empowerment, support, and community for men who are caregivers.


https://www.jackscaregiverco.org/


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