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The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant

Vox Media Podcast Network

March 26, 2026

Show Notes

Brené and Adam have a bracingly honest conversation about what could go wrong in their collaboration, and how to set new teams, partnerships, and friendships up for success. They discuss the science of avoiding failure and building alignment, and practical strategies for navigating differences—including their own clashing instincts around minimalism vs. maximalism and sarcasm vs. trashtalk. The episode closes with what each of them is listening to, watching, and reading right now.


You can also find The Curiosity Shop on YouTube and Instagram (@thecuriosityshop).


Chapters:

- How Brené Inadvertently Launched Adam into Podcasting

- Interpreting Sarcasm

- How to Prevent Failure

- How Could This Partnership Could Go Wrong

- Learning From Differences

- How to Align Teams

- Closing Questions


Show Notes:

Brenéand Adam on What They Will Never Agree On - The Curiosity Shop Episode 1

UnlessYou’re Oprah, ‘Be Yourself’ Is Terrible Advice - Adam Grant 2016NYT Op-Ed

My response to Adam Grant’s New York Times Op/ED: Unless You’re Oprah, ‘Be Yourself’ Is Terrible Advice - Brené Brown 2016LinkedIn

How to Love Criticism - Adam Grant 2018WorkLife with Adam Grant

Adam Grant on The Power of Knowing What You Don’t Know - Brené Brown and Adam Grant 2021Dare To Lead Podcast

Brené Brown on What Vulnerability Isn’t - Adam Grant and Brené Brown 2023Re: Thinking Ted Audio Collective

Hypervigilance in Mary Poppins (1964)

Theart and science of trash talk with Rafi Kohan - Adam Grant 2024Work Life With Adam Grant

Performinga Project Premortem - Gary Klein 2007HBR

Evaluatingthe Effectiveness of the PreMortem Technique on Plan Confidence - Veinot, Klein, & Wiggins 2010ISCRAM Conference

The Economics of Gender Differences in Employment Outcomes in Academia - Donna Ginther 2006National Library of Medicine

Leverage Points: Places to Intervene in a System - Donnella Meadows 1999 The Donella Meadows Project Academy for Systems Change

Narcissists:Are We Surrounded? On Science Vs: - Wendy Zukerman 2024Science VS Podcast

Human Raised: Nurturing Connection, Curiosity, & Lifelong Learning in the Age - Dana Suskind, MD 2026Book

TheKilling Stones A Detective Jimmy Perez Novel - Ann Cleeves 2025Book



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