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BS Disclaimers, Invisible Armies, and the Importance of the Words We Choose

The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant

Vox Media Podcast Network

May 7, 2026

Show Notes

Brené and Adam discuss the power — and peril — of the words we choose. They dive into two Machiavellian communication tools that often do more harm than good: the "Invisible Army" and "BS Disclaimers". Brené explains why leading with “we” or “but” often comes across as requesting permission to escape accountability, which ultimately sacrifices trust more than anything. Adam explores how these tools can sometimes serve as survival strategies in toxic cultures, leading to a conversation on psychological safety, groupthink, and why precision of language is more important than ever — especially in a world that still judges based on gender and identity.


You can find The Curiosity Shop on ⁠YouTube⁠ and ⁠Instagram⁠ (@thecuriosityshop).


0:00 - Introduction

1:10 - The Invisible Army

- Speaking Up and Pluribus

- ‘But’ or Escaping Accountability?

- Responsibility Versus Accountability

- Judgment Based on Gender and Identity

- Takeaways From Today’s Episode

Armored Versus Daring Leadership, Part 2 of 2 - Brené Brown, 2021,Dare to Lead (Podcast)

Gettingcredit for proactive behavior: Supervisor reactions depend on what you value and how you feel - Grant et al., 2009,Personnel Psychology

Plur1bus - Gilligan et al., 2025- Present, Sony Pictures; Apple TV+ (TV series)

Does Performance Improve Following Multisource Feedback? A Theoretical Model, Meta-Analysis, and Review of Empirical Findings - Smither et al., 2005,Personnel Psychology

Feedbackeffectiveness: Can 360-degree appraisals be improved? - DeNisi et al., 2000,Academy of Management Perspectives

WhatMakes a 360-Degree Review Successful? -

Zengerand Folkman, 2020,Harvard Business Review

Thebullshit asymmetry [sic]: the amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger - Brandolini, A., 2013,Twitter

Thepower of powerless speech: The effects of speech style and task interdependence on status conferral - Fragale, 2006,Organizational Behavior and Human Decision Processes

How Can Women Escape the Compensation Negotiation Dilemma? Relational Accounts Are One Answer - Bowles et al., 2013,Psychology of Women Quarterly

Likeable Badass: How Women Get the Success They Deserve - Fragale, 2024,Doubleday

Strong Ground: The Lessons of Daring Leadership, the Tenacity of Paradox, and the Wisdom of the Human Spirit - Brené Brown, 2025,Random House

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