Show Notes
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Tommy sits down with Mark C. Winters, co-author of Rocket Fuel and author of the new book Visionary, to name the seat most founders never see: the integrator. They get into why four visionaries exist for every one integrator, why founders who sell rarely last a year, the 2017hire that set Tommy free, and the one question every owner should answer before they ever think about selling.
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- Introduction
- Mark's Origin Story
- Predictable Visionary Patterns
- Small Shops To $400M
- Is "Founder" A Risk?
- Why Founders Leave After The Sale
- Who Becomes The Integrator
- What Getting Stuck Looks Like
- Five Abilities To Break Ceilings
- Can Your Spouse Be The Integrator?
- The Seat Founders Can't See
- The Thankless Number Two
- The Three-Piece Puzzle
- The First Sign It's Failing
- Four Visionaries, One Integrator
- The Bottleneck At The Top
- The Ski Resort CEO
- How To Find Your Integrator
- The Hard Truth
- The One System To Install Now
- Would You Give It All Back?
- Where To Find Mark
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