
Is Anything Holding MAGA Together?
from Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
by New York Times Opinion
Published: Thu Dec 11 2025
Show Notes
After Charlie Kirk’s assassination, conspiracy theories and divisions multiplied on the right. On this episode of “Interesting Times,” Ross talks to Andrew Kolvet, a Turning Point USA spokesperson and executive producer of “The Charlie Kirk Show,” about what happens to a movement when its charismatic leader is gone, what it’s like to be the target of conspiracy theories, and whether there are any issues unifying conservatism now.
- - Andrew’s friendship with Charlie Kirk
- - Turning Point U.S.A.’s activism and impact
- - Charlie Kirk’s assassination and its aftermath
- - The divisions on the right start with conspiracy theories
- - “Can the right hold together on Israel?”
- - Stress-testing the cohesion on the right
- - The Erika Kirk/Trump contrast
(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.)
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