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Is Anything Holding MAGA Together? by New York Times Opinion

Is Anything Holding MAGA Together?

from Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

by New York Times Opinion

Published: Thu Dec 11 2025

Show Notes

After Charlie Kirk’s assassination, conspiracy theories and divisions multiplied on the right. On this episode of “Interesting Times,” Ross talks to Andrew Kolvet, a Turning Point USA spokesperson and executive producer of “The Charlie Kirk Show,” about what happens to a movement when its charismatic leader is gone, what it’s like to be the target of conspiracy theories, and whether there are any issues unifying conservatism now.

  • - Andrew’s friendship with Charlie Kirk
  • - Turning Point U.S.A.’s activism and impact
  • - Charlie Kirk’s assassination and its aftermath
  • - The divisions on the right start with conspiracy theories
  • - “Can the right hold together on Israel?”
  • - Stress-testing the cohesion on the right
  • - The Erika Kirk/Trump contrast

(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.)

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