
The Model That Creates Lifelong Customers (and Revenue)
from Experts of Experience
by John Boccuzzi, Lacey Peace, Mission.org, isg-one.com
Published: Wed Nov 05 2025
Show Notes
How do brands create customers who stay for years or even decades?
In this episode, we break down the model behind lifelong loyalty, emotional connection, and trust-based customer experience - the kind that drives repeat revenue, referrals, and real brand love.
Our guest is John Boccuzzi, Jr., CX leader, speaker, author of The Art of Seducing Your Customers, and President of ISG Research. With 30+ years studying how companies build trust and deliver memorable customer experiences, John shares the frameworks and stories that prove: CX is not a cost center — it’s a growth engine.
You’ll learn:
The #1 factor that determines whether customers return
Why customer experience is more emotional than operational
The “Ruth Story” - how one pair of glasses changed John’s entire view on CX
How to scale empathy, trust, and personalization across big organizations
What brands get wrong when implementing AI in customer experience
The future of CX and what will matter most in the next 12 months
If you lead customer experience, marketing, service, brand, or product, this conversation will reshape how you think about delivering value.
Watch Next: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgNCaTYkXCE&t=1864s
Key Moments:
0:00 Meet John Boccuzzi, Jr.
3:20 What Customer Experience Really Is
5:20 The “Ruth Story”: Creating Emotional Loyalty
Why Having a Point of View Builds Trust
Training Teams to Deliver Great CX
Scaling Emotional Customer Experiences
How AI Fits Into Customer Experience
The Power of First Impressions
How Brands Stay Relevant Today
Make the Customer Journey Simple
The Future of Personalization
Common Misconceptions About CX
A Trend to Bet On (That Isn’t AI)
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