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646. An Air Traffic Controller Walks Into a Radio Studio ... by Freakonomics Radio + Stitcher

646. An Air Traffic Controller Walks Into a Radio Studio ...

from Freakonomics Radio

by Freakonomics Radio + Stitcher

Published: Fri Sep 12 2025

Show Notes

What does it take to “play 3D chess at 250 miles an hour”? And how far will $12.5 billion of “Big, Beautiful” funding go toward modernizing the F.A.A.? (Part two of a two-part series.)

  • SOURCES:
    • David Strayer, professor of cognition and neural science at the University of Utah.
    • Dorothy Robyn, senior fellow at I.T.I.F.
    • Ed Bastian, C.E.O. of Delta Airlines.
    • Ed Bolen, president and C.E.O. of the National Business Aviation Association.
    • John Strong, professor of finance and economics at the William and Mary School of Business.
    • Kenneth Levin, retired air traffic controller.
    • Olivia Grace, former product manager at Slack.
    • PollyTrottenberg, former deputy secretary of the U.S. Department of Transportation.

  • RESOURCES:
    • AnAir Traffic Controller Speaks Out About Newark Airport,” by The Journal (2025).
    • "Why Did Air Traffic Control Reform Efforts Fail (Again)?" by Jeff Davis (Eno Center for Transportation, 2023).
    • "Supertaskers:Profiles in extraordinary multitasking ability," by Jason Watson and David Strayer (Psychonomic Bulletin & Review, 2021).
    • Managingthe Skies: Public Policy, Organization, and Financing of Air Traffic Management, by John Strong and Clinton Oster (2016).