
How to Grow From Doing Hard Things | Michael Easter
from Huberman Lab
by Scicomm Media
Published: Mon Jun 16 2025
Show Notes
My guest is Michael Easter, a professor at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas and best-selling author. We discuss how particular daily life choices undermine our level of joy, our sense of purpose, our physical and our mental health and the daily, weekly, monthly and yearly steps we can all take to vastly increase our level of motivation, gratitude and overall life satisfaction. We discuss how effortful foraging for information, undistracted reflection and physical exercise are ways to ‘invest’ and therefore grow our levels of dopamine, energy and motivation, whereas low-friction activities are specifically designed to hijack or diminish them. We also discuss dopamine reward circuitry in the context of how to build and reset one’s energy levels and create a deeper sense of purpose in work, creative pursuits and relationships.
Read the episode show notes at hubermanlab.com.
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Timestamps
Michael Easter
Discomforts, Modern vs Ancient Life
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Modern Problems, Exercise, Trail vs Treadmill Running, Optic Flow, Hunting
Risk & Rewards, Intellectual vs Experiential Understanding
Modern Luxuries, First-World Problems, Gratitude, Tool: Volunteer
Rites of Passage, Tool: Challenge, Narrative & Purpose; Embracing Discomfort
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Choice, 2% Study, Silence, Tools: Do Slightly Harder Things; Notice Resistance
Cognitive Challenges, Walking, Screens, Tool: Sitting with Boredom
Capturing Ideas, Attractor States, Tool: Being in Nature
2% Rule, Rites of Passage, Tool: Misogi Challenge
Phones, Sharing with Others, Social Media, Tool: Reflection vs Screen Time
Dopamine, Spending vs Investing, Guilt
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Relaxation, Shared Identities & Community, Music, Tool: In-Person Meeting
Loss of Gathering Places, Internet & Distorted Views, Hitchhiking
Misogi & Entry Points; Daily Schedule, Caffeine Intake
Optimal Circadian Schedule, Work Bouts, Exercise
Outdoor Adventures, Backpacking & Nutrition
Camping & Sleeping, Nature, Three-Day Effect
Sea Squirts; Misogi Adventures & Cognitive Vigor, Writing, Happiness
Effort & Rewards, Addiction, Dopamine, Catecholamines
Humans, Running & Carrying Weight, Fat Loss, Tool: How to Start Rucking
Physical/Cognitive Pursuits & Resistance; Creative “Magic” & Foraging
Motivation; Slot Machines, Loss Disguised as a Win, Speed
Gambling, Dopamine, Addiction
Tool: Avoid Frictionless Foraging; Sports Betting, Speed; Junk Food, Three V’s
Conveniences, Technology; Upcoming Book, Satisfaction
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