
What Pets Actually Want & Need | Dr. Karolina Westlund
from Huberman Lab
by Scicomm Media
Published: Mon Apr 28 2025
Show Notes
My guest is Dr. Karolina Westlund, Ph.D., a professor of ethology at the University of Stockholm and an expert in animal emotions and behavior who uses science-based methods to improve the lives of animals in human care. We discuss the often overlooked needs of domesticated animals—primarily dogs and cats—and the things we can do to improve their well-being and our relationship with them.
We cover how to interpret animal body language, the unique needs of specific dog breeds, and the needs of cats and birds. We also discuss the pros and cons of spaying and neutering and how weaning age impacts a pet’s attachment style. Whether you’re a pet owner, trainer, or simply an animal lover, this episode teaches you how specific pet behaviors are rooted in their immutable biology—and the simple things you can do to vastly improve your pets’ health and well-being, as well as your relationship with them.
Read the episode show notes at hubermanlab.com.
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Timestamps
Karolina Westlund
Students & Animal Species; Horses
Dog Breeds & Interaction, Predatory Sequence, Smell, Domestication
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Dog Breeds & Domestication, Bulldogs
Core Affect Space, Petting, Tool: Consent Test; Polyvagal Theory
Space, Dominance, Resources, Leash Walking; Dog-Owner Training
Tail Wagging & Interpreting Body Signals, Facial Expressions
Play Bow, Tool: MARS & Playing; Dogs & Empathy
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Fairness, Social Groups; Anthropomorphism vs Anthropodenial
Cats, Hunting, Bring Gifts?, Interaction & Socialization
Scent & Territorial Marking; Covering Waste, Tool: Litter Box Placement
“Pee Mail” & Communication; Wolves, Domestication
Zoos, Conservation; Tigers
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Stalking; Birds, Parrots
Nose Work, Wildlife Chasing, Tool: Dog Feeding & Challenge
Understanding & Choosing Dog for Your Lifestyle, Tool: Introducing Cats
Recognizing Self vs Other, Inbreeding Avoidance, Imprinting
Imprinting vs Attachment Bonds; Dogs, Weaning & Secure Attachment
Spaying & Neutering, Hormones, Tool: Neutering Alternatives
Humans as Animals, Tools, Cultural Learning
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