
When Phenomenal Skill Meets Phenomenal Will
from The Ryan Leak Podcast
by Ryan Leak
Published: Mon Nov 10 2025
Show Notes
Phenomenal skill gets you noticed—but phenomenal will makes you unstoppable. In this episode, Ryan explores the powerful difference between what you can measure and what you can’t. From the 10,000-hour rule to Angela Duckworth’s research on grit, and the inspiring story of Jamie Kern Lima—who turned rejection after rejection into a $1.2 billion success—this episode reminds us that talent might open the door, but perseverance keeps you in the room. Skill helps you start. Will helps you finish.
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